The great American white lie.

White people, I know that you are all about to be in the minority here in A-merry-ca, but take heart, there are some very smart people who believe that this whole race thing is a bunch of crap. (h/t to Daniel Hill for this story)

“The news is going around breathlessly that 50.4% of births in the US in the past 12 months were to families categorized as ethnic minorities, presaging the time when ‘whites will be a minority’ in the US.The unselfconscious deployment of these categories just takes your breath away. Who gets to decide which ones are ‘white’ and which ones ‘ethnic minorities?’

As historians such as David Roediger have shown, the idea of ‘whiteness’ is a relatively new racial category, and it has changed enormously over time.
Whiteness as it was constructed in the nineteenth century was not about skin color but about being Protestant and propertied. There were even distinctions within the group. WASP or White Anglo-Saxon Protestant did not refer to all Protestants of English heritage, but rather to a northeast elite that tended to marry within themselves and to have a disproportionate hold on political and business office. The Scottish-American elite was another subgroup (Presbyterian as opposed to Episcopalian).

So not all whites were equally white. Moreover, Catholic immigrants such as the Irish, the Poles and the Italians were either not considered white when they first came or were denoted as a lesser category of white. Jews, Arabs, Japanese and Chinese were also not considered white. Indeed, a special law was made to keep Chinese in particular out of the country.

Over time, the Catholic minorities who immigrated into the US in the big 1880-1924 wave, before racist immigration laws were implemented, became accepted as ‘white.’ In the past 30 years, Jews have been accepted as white. It is even possible, I think, to argue that middle class Blacks on the model of Bill Cosby’s the Huxtables have become ‘white.’ You’ll note that Harry Reid said of Obama the candidate that he ‘had no dialect,’ so for older ‘whites,’ blackness was in part cultural, wrought up with an imagined African-American speech pattern. Thus, the Obamas are in some sense ‘white,’ producing that odd argument about whether Obama is ‘black enough,’ which non-Americans must have found baffling.

In 1965 the US was finally too embarrassed to go on with the racist immigration laws and put a ceiling of 25,000 for each country in the world. That change kick-started a whole new big wave of immigration, which may now be ending. About a million a year had been coming, half of them from Latin America.

The Latinos have for the moment been categorized as non-white, but surely everyone can see how arbitrary that is. Many Latinos in Argentina and Brazil are of Italian ancestry. If they come to the US now, they are a ‘minority’ or ‘brown.’But their cousins who just came straight to Rhode Island are ‘white.’ For that matter, why is there a difference among people who speak Romance languages and practice Catholicism, such that a Colombian is a ‘minority’ but a Calabrian is not? And consider that if a Sephardic Jewish family of Spanish ancestry immigrates from Israel, they are ‘white,’ but Spanish Catholic families who settled in Mexico and then came to the US recently are not (that’s an interesting reversal!)

Arabs are an interesting case. I’d argue that Lebanese Christians became ‘white.’ Arab Muslims were on the verge of becoming white before 9/11 but may have been at least temporarily demoted. (They are white in the census categories, but social acceptance has fallen). My guess is that demotion is a temporary blip, since they are typically well educated and well off, and over time economic eliteness tends to produce racial eliteness in the US.
And, the old prejudices against the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox ‘Slavs’ has completely collapsed, so no one thinks Poles or other Eastern Europeans are not ‘white.’

So given the history of ‘whiteness,’ likely the new wave of Latinos will be awarded the category over time. My guess is that Asians will be, as well. Remember, it isn’t about ‘race,’ it is about a weird kind of social status. By the way, Apartheid South Africa declared Japanese to be ‘white.’

Ultimately, the whole idea of whiteness can only be kept going through a set of racial and class exclusions. Working-class African-Americans eternally get

the short end of the stick. Recent immigrant groups are often excluded along with them…

…..Best of all if we can just say that in the US, we are all Americans and stop categorizing people with regard to their adaptation to ultraviolet waves. It is anyway a temporary adaptation. If you took Swedes and left them in the Congo for 13,000 years, the mothers that could shield their embryos from harsh ultraviolet rays better would be selected for, and they would be darker, and eventually the group would be ‘black.’ If you took Congolese to Sweden, the mothers that could provide their embryos vitamin D more reliably in a low UV environment would be selected for, and over time the group would get ‘white.’ (In fact, we’re all from Africa, so that is exactly what happened historically). It is a minor epidermal health issue, not a matter of character or essence. Get rid of it.” [Source]

But…but…but…if we do that, how will some of us be able to claim to be superior to other people without ever doing anything?

76 comments:

Anonymous said…

“Ultimately, the whole idea of whiteness can only be kept going through a set of racial and class exclusions.”

Right.

Because there’s no such thing as race.

Gee, since there’s no such thing as race, I wonder how sickle cell anemia is able to differentiate black people from white people…

thmoas sowell said…

whitey’s conspiracy said, without irony:

…I am an authentic socialist, having seen its benefit first hand ever since I was a military brat in Europe.

Unbelievable. I’d expect a comment expressing the imaginary wonders of socialism from some dreamy kid, but, I guess the dreaminess afflicts all kinds.

So you think socialism is great, even though you yourself were part of a family PAID by US taxpayers to provide military security to Europe.

Do you have an estimate of the amount the US pays to keep Europe out of trouble, thereby relieving Europe of having to pay for its own defense?

Moreover, Spain is broke, Italy is broke and Greece is in such deep financial trouble that letting it out of the European Union may be the thread that lead

s to the unraveling of the entire charade.

Whitey’s Conspiracy said…

Whites can get CCA, it was selected for in malarial regions of West Africa because “carriers” those with one CCA gene are resistant to it while “sufferers” those with 2 CCA genes died in infancy along with the majority of all births before modern medicine and foods changed that.

you never see white folks doing this said…

more racist black mob attacks

Police: Man, 19, beaten by two groups of students downtown
The Baltimore Sun

A 19-year-old student from Baltimore Polytechnic High School told police he was beaten by two separate groups of juveniles from a rival school in downtown Baltimore on Thursday afternoon, an attack that comes amid a pitched debate over downtown safety.

According to police, the student was walking in the 200 block of W. Fayette St., a block north of the First Mariner Arena, before 4:20 p.m. when he said he was attacked from behind by an unknown male. Nine other juveniles joined in as he tried to defend himself, and his phone was taken during the attack, he told police.

Some feel city covered up extent of St. Patrick’s Day violence
1st Mariner Arena Moments later, police say, an MTA bus stopped in the block and a juvenile male wearing a Digital Harbor High School shirt “forced open the door and got off the bus,” followed by 19 other juveniles wearing Digital Harbor shirts, who again assaulted the victim, police said.

Anthony Guglielmi, a city police spokesman, said the victim told the police he was attacked because of a rivalry between the two schools. Guglielmi said police were coordinating with school officials to investigate the case.

The Sun reported last week that police dispatch tapes revealed a broader disturbance downtown onSt. Patrick’s Daythan police had let on, and some questioned whether police had been forthcoming initially about the scope of the incident. The tapes showed police struggled to contain large groups of young people moving throughout the downtown area.

Also that night, a Virginia man was beaten and stripped of his clothing near the downtown courthouse, an attack that was caught on tape and garnered national attention.

The racial elements of that crime fed much of the outrage – the victim was white, and the attackers were all black. In Thursday’s reported assault, Guglielmi said the 19-year-old victim was white and the attackers were all juvenile black males.

The reports of the St. Patrick’s Day incidents prompted Baltimore County Del. Pat McDonough, a conservative radio show host, to issue a statement asking the governor to send in the Maryland State Police to control “roving mobs of black youths” at Baltimore’s Inner Harbor. He said the Harbor should be declared a “no-travel zone” until safety can be ensured.

Anonymous said…

in the mind of a liberal

zimmerman is white

elizabeth warren is indian.

btw, states will list hispanics as white in crime reports.

Whitey’s Conspiracy said…

So you think socialism is great, even though you yourself were part of a family PAID by US taxpayers to provide military security to Europe.”

————————————–

In England, as military dependents, we lived in council houses in regular neighborhoods (public housing) and used neighborhood based National Health Services just like the RAF. When the US Air Force messed up my dad’s pay while he was TDY to VietNam and we had 0 dollars to live on for over 2 months, British Labour socialism gave us chits for 2 hot meals a day at the local lunchroom. Also, because my mother had 2 kids and was nursing a third, we got a free quart of whole milk a day and a dozen eggs and pound of butter a week -all delivered to our doorstep irrespective of income.

In Norway, we again, lived in public housing, we kids were fed twice a day in school, and we received our basic medical care there too just like all of the Norwegians.

At the same time in America, and this was pre great-society, public housing was gathering poverty into critical mass, and parents were more likely to lose their kids to orphanages than receive help from their government if they suddenly couldn’t support them. (thats exactly what happened to one of my cousins)

I learned then, and still believe now, that making sure that everyone has enough before anyone has excess is morally right, and that societies are best served by governments which prioritize the common good over individual excess.

Dr.Reine c/o 2017 said…

Well said, Whitey!

NSangoma said…
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Anonymous 7:33 PM, Sickle Cell Anemia is not an exclusively African disease.

Sickle cell disease affects people of many racial and ethnic groups. In the United States, 1 in 400 African-American newborns has the disease. Other people affected include Hispanics, people of Mediterranean and Middle Eastern descent, and Asians.


http://www.cdc.gov/Features/SickleCell/

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Weez said…

Wow, what a disturbing photo!

Whitey’s Conspiracy said…

“The lead detective in the case against George Zimmerman’s alleged shooting of Trayvon Martin said he believes Zimmerman caused the fight by getting out of his car to confront Martin, and believes the Florida neighborhood-watch volunteer should be charged with manslaughter.”

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hCdykoIjmPMAgLTFzxHVIydZIECQ?docId=3f268f957ba44ecdba44ed43b71e48e1

That’s what I’ve been saying. Zimmerman’s own description makes it VOL MS. He chose to arm himself. He chose to profile Martin. He chose to stalk Martin. He chose to confront Martin. He chose to ignore the dispatcher’s instructions. Martin was the one entitled to defend himself when confronted by an armed stalker. Zimmerman wasn’t “standing his ground” he was getting into Martin’s face.

Anonymous said…

Whitey’s Conspiracy said…
“The lead detective in the case against George Zimmerman’s alleged shooting of Trayvon Martin said he believes Zimmerman caused the fight by getting out of his car to confront Martin, and believes the Florida neighborhood-watch volunteer should be charged with manslaughter.”

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hCdykoIjmPMAgLTFzxHVIydZIECQ?docId=3f268f957ba44ecdba44ed43b71e48e1

That’s what I’ve been saying. Zimmerman’s own description makes it VOL MS. He chose to arm himself. He chose to profile Martin. He chose to stalk Martin. He chose to confront Martin. He chose to ignore the dispatcher’s instructions. Martin was the one entitled to defend himself when confronted by an armed stalker. Zimmerman wasn’t “standing his ground” he was getting into Martin’s face.

Yes all those words Zimmerman said must have been physically damaging and required Martin to defend his honor and physically attack the guy standing in front of him.

Listen, we all know it is not safe to speak to a violent black man. We all know you think someone having the temerity to speak to one out of place and not shiver hiding in his car is outrageous and clearly in your mind warrants physical attack/deemed as defense by you.

However, in the real world and civilized nations with laws. Someone is allowed to exit their vehicle even when violent blacks are around.

Someone is allowed to speak to people, even if they are violent blacks.

Someone is allowed to carry a concealed weapon, even though violent blacks don’t like the idea of others defending themselves.

Someone is allowed to think whatever they want.

The only thing not allowed is for someone to physically attack you and smack your head on the ground because they are angry, no matter why they are angry.

Do you get it yet? Break down these laws and make excuses for those who are feral and cannot control violent impulses and you will be next.

If Trayvon had acted like a human being and told Zimmerman to go fuck himself he was visiting his fathers baby mama and walked away nothing would have happened. He didn’t, he got Negro angry and hit Zimmerman, then jumped on top of him and pummeled him, then smashed his head into the concrete, then got killed.

Zimmerman is not the guilty one because he gasp thought someone was acting suspicious. HE WAS. He was hidden in a hoody, weaving in and out of house off the main crosswalk, running, coming back, HE confronted Zimmerman for having the balls to dare say something to a black angry violent man.

Entire cities, neighborhoods and communities have been destroyed by idiots like you who refuse to stand up to evil, who refuse to get involved who pander and cannot tell right from wrong. If you attack someone, you are the guilty one, not the man who pissed you off. All the evidence points to self defense. Thus he was not arrested until this latest show to assuage the black violent element of our society, what a coincidence, more black violence promised unless they get their way.

Anonymous said…

Whiteys Self Loather said…

“I learned then, and still believe now, that making sure that everyone has enough before anyone has excess is morally right, and that societies are best served by governments which prioritize the common good over individual excess.”

You probably do not realize that you were the recipient of capitalistic societies altruistic elements. IN real socialist countries you would have starved unless you had connections to those in power and or something of worth for immediate trade.

Russia, China, South Korea. They are all real examples of socialism. It doesn’t work, causes deaths and hardship and enslaves entire populations.

Millions were executed under socialism, capatalism and the bounty reaped for all literally feeds the world and apparantly you as well in your youth.

thomas sowell said…

whitey says:

I learned then, and still believe now, that making sure that everyone has enough before anyone has excess is morally right, and that societies are best served by governments which prioritize the common good over individual excess.

Yet you live in the US where the “to each according to his need and from each according to his ability” is not the law of the land.

However, with respect to food among the less affluent, there is an obesity problem, and with respect to housing, the ever increasing supply of government-subsidized sites is always trailing behind the more quickly increasing demand.

You might take a cue from citizenship requirements in England and Norway. They’re much tougher.

You might also take note of the fact that Norway exports 90% of the oil it pumps out of the North Sea and uses that FREE MONEY to pay the country’s bills.

The US could pump a lot more oil from domestic reserves and reap some of the same benefits that Norwegians enjoy — but Obama and the rest of the green mafia believe in dreams about solar cells and wind generators.

So if you want more government generosity, then you ought to wise up about where the money for government spending comes from. NOrway is a superb example.

Check Venezuela too. International oil sales account for most of hard cash flowing into Hugo’s failing state. But he and his incompetent crew don’t know how to make the whole show work.

As you may know, healthcare in Venezuels was judged by Hugo to be lacking, so he went to Cuba, where he was treated by the same system that practically killed Castro.

Due to the lack of preventive medicine, Hugo’s a dead man.

In any case, as I mentioned, when a country has its defense bills paid by another country, it’s a lot easier to allocate tax revenue to other ends. And even though the US protects Europe, Spain, Italy and Greece are collapsing.

If the US backed away from providing security and left those all of Europe to pay its own defense bills, you’d see total collapse of the EU.

Anyway, as is more obvious than ever now, you have no sense of irony.

thomas sowell said…

Russia, China, South Korea. They are all real examples of socialism.

I think you meant North Korea. And you forgot Cuba.

Anonymous said…

“Sickle Cell Anemia is not an exclusively African disease.”

Your comment is non-responsive.
I didn’t suggest sickle cell was exclusive to blacks. However, it is extremely disproportionate to blacks, and almost non-existent in whites.

Of course, you understood this, you’re just avoiding the point.

If there is no such thing as race, then why doesn’t sickle cell affect blacks and whites equally?

thomas sowell said…

whiey:

You ought to compare the society built by Norway, financed by oil and gas from the North Sea.

Keep in mind the population of Norway is only 5 million.

Then think about Iraq. Iraq could build a prosperous advanced nation financed by its oil production too. Moreover, Nigeria could also adopt the same program.

But factors in Iraq have led to slow progress, but progress nonetheless.

More serious impediments have pretty much destroyed all hope of Nigeria ever becoming the Norway of Africa.

This is a lame misrepresentation of the facts, however, I encourage you to keep believing this, it will motivate you to join in the negro riots when Zimmerman is acquitted.

1. Carrying a firearm is perfectly legal, and a constitutionally guaranteed right. I carry a gun everywhere I go.
2. Profiling is not a crime, in fact it is smart.
3. It is not a crime to watch another person.
4. It is perfectly legal to ask a person a question.
5. The dispatcher’s suggestion was not “instructions”, and Zimmerman did not ignore this suggestion, in fact he returned to his truck, where he was attacked by the young negro thug.

Zimmerman deserves a medal, he will never be convicted, and blacks will definitely behave like the wild, uncivilized animals that they are.

Anonymous said…

thomas sowell said…
Russia, China, South Korea. They are all real examples of socialism.

I think you meant North Korea. And you forgot Cuba.

I did; thanks. The socialist country that is setting another great example of socialism, blackmail capitalist countries with violence (Nuclear warheads; controlled by insane “socialistic” leaders) for food. Because socialism doesn’t allow you to feed your citizens anything but what you extort from others. Imagine that and look at the similarities. Socialism relies completely on others either giving or being forced to support the practitioners.

Anonymous said…

” He chose to arm himself. He chose to profile Martin. He chose to stalk Martin. He chose to confront Martin. He chose to ignore the dispatcher’s instructions.”

Anonymous said…
“If there is no such thing as race, then why doesn’t sickle cell affect blacks and whites equally”.

Sickle cell disease doesn’t have anything to do with being Black you idiot, it’s related to areas of the world where certain types of mosquitoes are prevalent, areas where people of color just happened to live.

In other words, if these mosquitoes had evolved to take up residence is Europe, more white folks would have sickle cell trait/disease than people of color.

Furthermore, people who carry sickle cell trait or who have the disease are far less likely to be infected with malaria, a mosquito borne disease. Therefore, it’s an evolutionary advantage in places where malaria is endemic/epidemic.

Now sat your dumb a$$ down before I b@tch slap you with my undergraduate biology book!

Dr. Queen’s alter ego

Anonymous said…

“Sickle cell disease doesn’t have anything to do with being Black you idiot”

Being black makes you genetically susceptible to sickle cell, you f’ing imbecile. Being non-black makes you genetically non-susceptible to sickle cell, you f’ing idiot.

“it’s related to areas of the world where certain types of mosquitoes are prevalent”
This is utter nonsense, and can only be attributed to your low negro IQ. The Philippines has heavy mosquito infestation, yet its native population is virtually devoid of sickle cell affliction.

Thanks for playing…

Anonymous said…
You are all a bunch of David Dukes and Louis Farakans. Race baiting on both sides. Where is the solution to come from? Share a blunt and love someone.

Anonymous said…

“Thanks for playing”

Boy……..didn’t you see the phrase CERTAIN TYPES OF MOSQUITOES in my earlier comment???Or are you too stupid to understand that different mosquitoes live in different parts of the world??

Dr. Queen’s alter ego, who just b@tch slapped you with a HIGH SCHOOL biology book.

Anonymous said…

Dr. Queen’s alter ego, who just b@tch slapped you with a HIGH SCHOOL biology book.

Speaking of race and genetics, look how violence permeates every facet of a Negress life. She “bitch slapped” someone with her inability to understand a HS text.

Race is not a Construct it is a fact. Why do Blacks runaway from being Black whenever the problems surface? The silliness of attempting to claim race is not real despite scientific hard facts and evidence came out of the sixties from the liberal unicorn polishers fantasy land and has been totally disproven many times over since, to most thinking adults non surprise.

You cannot find DNA markers of a “social construct” but you certainly can with biological reality.

It is self-evident that there are genetic differences between people who have been geographically segregated into mating populations, just as there are genetic differences for all species and subspecies,” wrote Michael Wigler, a professor at Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory in Cold Spring Harbor, New York

Why just look at the Frudakis’ test:

It’s called DNAWitness. It examines DNA from 176 locations along the genome. Particular sequences at these points are found primarily in people of African heritage, others mainly in people of Indo-European, Native American, or South Asian descent. No one sequence can perfectly identify a person’s origin. But by looking at scores of markers, Frudakis says he can predict ancestry with a tiny margin of error. […]

But the real [reason it isn’t popular with police]? DNAWitness touches on race and racial profiling — a subject with such a tortured history that people can’t countenance the existence of the technology, even if they don’t understand how it works.

“Once we start talking about predicting racial background from genetics, it’s not much of a leap to talking about how people perform based on their DNA — why they committed that rape or stole that car or scored higher on that IQ test,” says Troy Duster, former president of the American Sociological Association.

That is why liberals want to “wisherate” away race. It is too telling and harcore scientific. You cannot bloviate your way out of facts.

Whitey’s Conspiracy said…

i lived in Europe before the North Sea oilfields were discovered. They are irrelevant to my experience there.

Likewise, my experience has been in democratic socialist countries, not authoritarian socialist countries. I’ve experience living under authoritarian governments too, in Iran, Turkey and Thailand, but they were in no way socialist, even in Iran with it’s great oil wealth and a population less than a quarter of today’s, life was kept hard and cheap for all for all but the the richest

Bob said…

The concept of “race” is a yurrupean invention. They couldn’t single out Black Africans for enslavement unless some special category was invented for them. In the ancient world, becoming a slave was just a matter of bad luck, of being conquered & captured, no matter what skin color or nationality, & not having some special privilege or status, like being a Roman citizen. In Ben Hur (which is fiction, not history, but has some accurate observations), when Hur returns to Palestine as a Roman citizen he’s virtually untouchable by his enemy Messala. But Hur himself owns two slaves, whose national origin or how they came to be slaves is not revealed.

Kingnut said…

So given the history of ‘whiteness,’ likely the new wave of Latinos will be awarded the category over time. My guess is that Asians will be, as well. Remember, it isn’t about ‘race,’ it is about a weird kind of social status. By the way, Apartheid South Africa declared Japanese to be ‘white.’

If you define ‘whiteness’ as the ability to live up to the standards of the majority culture, to adhere to the ideals of hard work, honesty, and an absolute morality, to pledge allegience to the ideals of self-reliance and liberty that have made America the greatest nation in the world, then in all ways you are my brother.

Anyone who is capable of seeing America in its totality as the greatest boon to humanity in all of history, anyone who can see the founding fathers as something beyond slaveholders, anyone who embraces the idea of personal liberty as paramount can be “white” in my book………………………………………

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